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GOP debate updates: TV ratings plummet as Haley addresses ‘scum’ spat

Five candidates faced off in the NBC News-hosted event in Miami, Florida

Oliver O'Connell,Gustaf Kilander
Friday 10 November 2023 22:09 GMT
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Haley calls Ramaswamy ‘scum’ for referencing her daughter during debate

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The third Republican primary debate at the Adrienne Arsht Center for the Performing Arts in Miami, Florida, featured a number of contentious exchanges over candidates’ policies and records with even the moderators and RNC chair Ronna McDaniel coming under fire early on.

Five candidates qualified for the showdown, broadcast by NBC News – Florida Governor Ron DeSantis, biotech entrepreneur and woke-bashing author Vivek Ramaswamy, former UN Ambassador Nikki Haley, South Carolina Senator Tim Scott, and former New Jersey Governor Chris Christie.

Former President Donald Trump also qualified but did not attend, instead speaking at a rally in nearby Hialeah, Florida.

There were a number of fiery tussles throughout the evening including when Mr Ramaswamy was booed by the crowd for an attack on Ms Haley’s daughter with the former UN ambassador calling him “scum” in response — many agreed with her assessment.

Despite the fireworks, TV ratings slumped to the lowest yet in the 2024 cycle, with just 7.51 million viewers tuning in, according to NBC News.

The next debate is set for 6 December in Tuscaloosa, Alabama, and will be hosted by NewsNation.

Nikki Haley: Where does the 2024 Republican candidate stand on the issues?

Nikki Haley has quickly ascended in the polls, becoming the most likely Republican candidate to serve as the alternative to former President Donald Trump in the 2024 race – albeit still a long way behind the frontrunner.

Ms Haley boasts experience in foreign policy – at a time of extreme international instability – served as UN ambassador in the Trump administration and left, allowing her to align herself on some policies while putting just enough distance from the frontrunner, and served as the governor of South Carolina, an early voting state.

The 51-year-old differs from the bulk of the GOP field when it comes to abortion, social security, and foreign policy.

After three impassioned debate performances, the spotlight continues to shine on her.

Here is a glance at where she stands on the issues:

Where 2024 Republican candidate Nikki Haley stands on the issues

Former UN ambassador differs from the bulk of the GOP field when it comes to abortion, social security, and foreign policy — and has been forced to clarify her stance on China

Kelly Rissman9 November 2023 21:45

Jill Stein announces 2024 presidential campaign

Jill Stein announced on Thursday that she is entering the 2024 presidential race as a candidate for the Green Party, criticising the two major parties for failing to address issues like climate change and inequality.

“The political systm is broken,” she said in an announcement video on social media. “The two Wall Street parties are bought and paid for. Over 60 per cent of us now say the bispartisan establishment has failed us and we need a party that serves the people.”

“We’ll put solutions to the crises we face,” she added. “Crushing inequality, endless war, and climate collapse...The ruling parties that got us into this mess aren’t getting us out.”

Ms Stein ran in 2016 with the Green Party.

Josh Marcus has the story...

Green party candidate Jill Stein announces 2024 campaign

Green Party candidate’s campaign announcement criticised ‘failed two-party system’

Oliver O'Connell9 November 2023 21:15

Voices: Why the GOP debates are increasingly meaningless without Trump

John Bowden writes:

Mr Trump was mentioned sporadically by both the moderators and candidates, but without the frontrunner present the criticism of his policies and record as president seemed less effective. The big attention-grabbing moment of the night had nothing to do with him; it played out when Mr Ramaswamy took a swipe at Ms Haley’s daughter over her TikTok usage, prompting the South Carolinian to label him “scum”.

Right now, it’s hard to say what, if anything, could move the needle in the GOP primary in any meaningful way. But it does seem clear that the debates are not going to do it, not as long as Mr Trump refuses to attend.

Read the full article...

Why the GOP debates are increasingly meaningless without Trump

Trump’s rivals need to stop sniping at each other and start peeling off his voters if they want to win

Oliver O'Connell9 November 2023 20:45

Dan Crenshaw weighs in on Haley v ‘con artist’ Ramaswamy

Republican Texas Rep Dan Crenshaw has weighed in on the big moment of Wednesday’s Republican presidential debate, adding his voice to the chorus of commentators who have slammed Vivek Ramaswamy for his comments on Nikki Haley’s daughter.

Mr Crenshaw wrote on X: “Yeah he’s scum, but I also despise terrible logic, which Vivek peddles like candy. According to him, his current usage of Chinese TikTok is justified because Nikki Haley’s daughter *used to have it too.*”

He adds: “This guy is a con artist using the serious act of running for president to gain notoriety. He is emblematic of a decaying cultural fabric that rewards dishonor.”

Oliver O'Connell9 November 2023 20:25

Haley ‘goes Will Smith’ as she berates Ramaswamy

Ex-UN Ambassador Nikki Haley went after entrepreneur Vivek Ramaswamy during the third Republican debate in Miami, slamming him for mentioning her daughter’s use of the Chinese-owned app TikTok.

“In the last debate, she made fun of me for actually joining TikTok while her own daughter was actually using the app for a long time. So you might want to take care of your family first,” Mr Ramaswamy said on Wednesday night about the app owned by the company ByteDance, which is based in Beijing.

“Leave my daughter out of your voice. You’re just scum,” Ms Haley responded, with Mr Ramaswamy’s attack leading to boos from the audience.

Gustaf Kilander breaks down the most contentious moment of last night’s debate.

Nikki Haley ‘goes Will Smith’ as she berates Vivek Ramaswamy

‘Enough of the virtue signaling from people like @NikkiHaley who rails against TikTok even as her adult daughter has been on the platform for years,’ Ramaswamy writes on X

Oliver O'Connell9 November 2023 20:00

ICYMI: Jimmy Kimmel mocks ‘non-viable’ GOP debate candidates with Avengers jab

Late-night host Jimmy Kimmel gave his review of five GOP presidential candidates he described as “non-viable” on Tuesday night, ahead of the third Republican primary debate.

The third GOP presidential debate is due to take place in Miami on Wednesday. So far, front-runner Donald Trump, who is currently embroiled in a civil fraud trial in New York, has not attended any of the primary debates.

The former president has indicated he sees no point in participating in the debates given his substantial lead over the other candidates in the polls.

Martha McHardy reports.

Jimmy Kimmel mocks ‘non-viable’ GOP debate candidates with Avengers jab

‘None of them will be president,’ Kimmel said

Oliver O'Connell9 November 2023 19:30

‘The middle doesn’t win primaries’: Scott won’t move to middle on abortion, campaign says

After a disastrous off-year election night for Republicans that was largely centred around opposition to harsh abortion restrictions, the candidates for the GOP presidential nomination offered a more moderate stance on the topic during Wednesday night’s debate, with the exception of South Carolina Senator Tim Scott.

None of the candidates strayed from their overall opposition to abortion, however. And for his part, Tim Scott doubled down on his call for a federal ban, saying, “I’d challenge Nikki and Ron to join me at a 15-week limit.”

“I will sign anything where we can get 60 Senate votes,” Haley replied, “but don’t make the American people think that you’re going to push something on them when we don’t even have the votes in the Senate.”

The Scott campaign pointed to that exchange as evidence that the competition was becoming “a little bit more moderate” in an attempt “to get the Never Trump vote.” Jennifer DeCasper, the senator’s campaign manager, told RCP that Scott won’t budge. “He’s not going to move to the middle,” she said, “because the middle doesn’t win primaries.”

Oliver O'Connell9 November 2023 19:00

Watch: Ramaswamy asked about tense exchange with Haley

Oliver O'Connell9 November 2023 18:30

Welcome your debate moderators... Tucker, Elon and Joe?

Tech entrepreneur and 2024 candidate Vivek Ramaswamy came out swinging at Wednesday’s debate, calling the Republican Party a “party of losers” and attacking the mainstream media.

Kicking off the third Republican debate, moderators asked the five candidates on stage how they would differentiate themselves from the current fronter, Donald Trump.

But Mr Ramaswamy took the opportunity to erupt into a rant about Republicans’ losing streak.

He also had some wild ideas for who should be moderating what is supposed to be a serious debate about policy...

Ariana Baio reports.

Ramaswamy wants Tucker Carlson, Elon Musk and Joe Rogan running debate

Vivek Ramaswamy suggests Tucker Carlson, Joe Rogan and Elon Musk should be moderating the Republican debate

Oliver O'Connell9 November 2023 18:00

Tim Scott appears to 'soft launch' new girlfriend at GOP debate
Oliver O'Connell9 November 2023 17:30

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