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Popular anti-work subreddit goes private after awkward Fox News interview

The community wants working conditions to be less oppressive for low-income people

Josh Marcus
San Francisco
Thursday 27 January 2022 14:59 GMT
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'I would love to take your class': Fox News host laughs at moderator of r/antiwork reddit
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A wildly popular Reddit forum called r/antiwork, where users discuss ways to reform exploitative labour systems and commiserate over pandemic working conditions, has suddenly gone private after a testy interview between Fox News anchor Jesse Watters and one of the forum’s moderators.

r/antiwork has been around since 2013, but has surged in popularity during the strains of the pandemic. The community, whose slogan is “Unemployment for all, not just the rich!” has more than 1.7 million users, and was the fastest-growing non-default reddit across the site as of 26 January.

Fox News sought to interview one of its moderators, Doreen Ford. In their conversation, Mr Watters appeared openly contemptuous of the idea, laughing out loud when Ms Ford said she was a dog walker who works about 25 hours a week and aspires to teach philosophy.

“There are some misconceptions about the movement,” Ms Ford told Mr Watters. “We want to still put in effort. We want to put in labor, but we don’t want to necessarily be in a position where we feel trapped.

“I think laziness is a virtue in a society where people constantly want you to be productive 24/7. And it’s good to have rest.”

Mr Watters then asked what Ms Ford considered a solid work day, and she replied: “Whatever people want”.

The Fox anchor then laughed in the segment titled “The War Against Working”. He said: “I would love to take your class. Not everything is free, but it is a free country.”

Fox News hot Jesse Watters interviews Doreen Ford, a moderator on the popular r/antiwork subreddit.
Fox News hot Jesse Watters interviews Doreen Ford, a moderator on the popular r/antiwork subreddit. (Screengrab of Fox News)

After the interview the /r/antiwork subreddit was made private with a message reading: “We’re closed while we deal with the clean-up from ongoing brigading, and will be back soon. (You don’t need to request to join. We’ll be back real soon. I promise.)”

As of Thursday morning, the page appeared to be back online and public.

Brigading refers to a coordinated effort from one group to disrupt another’s work on the site.

In an archived post, another person identifying themselves as an r/antiwork wrote that, “We’re under heavy fire by brigaders - "new" users that never participated in /r/antiwork,” adding that these “bad actors” showed why “we will outright decline right-wing media like Fox News from now on.”

A Reddit user named Luciagrace posted earlier in the day that, “Came on there this morning and it looks like a dumpster fire of locked posts and comments. Apparently people are getting banned left, right and centre for discussing the interview, why?”

The forum’s moderators have said they weren’t banning people for discussion the interview per se, but rather for breaking the forum’s pre-set rules.

Followers of the r/antiwork philosophy said they were worried at how the movement came off on TV. Instead of focusing on exploitative labour practices, and the outsized place most Americans’ jobs play in their lives in the absence of a functional social safety net, they believed the forum came off looking like an expression of Millenial privilege.

“Most of the posts on r/antiwork are from retail and fast food workers, nurses, teachers, and other essential workers who are being screwed over during the pandemic,” wrote one user on Twitter. “But then this walking stereotype goes on TV and sets the entire thing back by a decade.”

Ms Ford has previously explained the deeper meaning of the forum in other media outlets.

“The point of the movement is not to tell everyone to go quit your job immediately and don’t think about the economic impact on yourself or your family — that’s definitely not the message,” she told Bloomberg last month.

“The central aim of our mission is to undermine and subvert capitalism as much as possible and make it so that people don’t have to rely on their jobs as much to pay rent.”

In November, a moderator told The Independent: “Anti-work is a philosophy that is a radical one, that tries to strike at the systemic issues within capitalism – but I think that intuitive thing, where a lot of people are trying to do work-life balance, a lot of people are quitting their jobs, a lot of people are fed up with how their companies may been handling Covid and stuff like that”.

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