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Debate on approach to independence ends at SNP conference, Yousaf insists

The party will meet in Aberdeen this weekend, with its independence policy first on the agenda.

Craig Paton
Saturday 14 October 2023 00:01 BST
Humza Yousad was speaking ahead of his first conference as leader of the SNP (Robert Perry/PA)
Humza Yousad was speaking ahead of his first conference as leader of the SNP (Robert Perry/PA) (PA Wire)

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Scotlandā€™s First Minister has urged his party to stop talking about the process of securing independence following its conference this weekend.

SNP delegates will meet in Aberdeen from Sunday, with the first priority being to decide the partyā€™s approach to independence.

Members will debate the best way forward, with a motion tabled by Humza Yousaf and Westminster leader Stephen Flynn which would set a target of the SNP winning the most seats in Scotland at the next election being enough to trigger talks with the Westminster government about how to put that mandate into ā€œdemocratic effectā€.

Mr Yousaf has said he will be open to amendments to the motion and allow members to decide the best way forward.

Once we've had that debate... that's it. We're done. You draw a line under that. I will fully accept whatever conference decides

Humza Yousaf

But he urged the party to put an end to the argument after Sunday.

Speaking to the PA news agency, he said: ā€œLet me be very frank about this, at conference once weā€™ve had that debate ā€“ and Iā€™m sure in the best traditions of the SNP, itā€™ll be frank, itā€™ll be robust ā€“ thatā€™s it. Weā€™re done.

ā€œYou draw a line under that, I will fully accept whatever conference decides, even if itā€™s not my motion ā€“ Iā€™m confident they will ā€“ but I will accept whatever conference decides.

ā€œEverybody else must accept what conference decides.

ā€œOnce that is done, the talk about process is done.ā€

Despite support for independence hovering around 50% in the past few months, backing for the SNP has dropped, due in part to the partyā€™s long-term discussions about how to achieve independence as opposed to the reasons for it, the First Minister said.

He added: ā€œOne of the things that is very clear to me why that link between independence supporters and the SNP is weakened, is because we are talking too much about process.

ā€œPeople donā€™t understand why independence is relevant to their everyday lives; the cost-of-living crisis, the NHS and public services and the economy.

ā€œWe have to draw a line under it on Sunday, the partyā€™s had the debate, itā€™s had its regional assemblies, itā€™s made a decision ā€“ letā€™s all get united behind it and letā€™s get on with talking about the policy, not the process.ā€

Mr Yousafā€™s calls are aimed at a party struggling with internal divisions.

In recent months, senior party figures have hit out at the deal between the Scottish Government and the Scottish Greens, including Fergus Ewing, who was suspended from the partyā€™s Holyrood group for a week following a series of rebellions.

Others have also rebelled on highly protected marine areas, gender reforms and the deposit return scheme.

Asked if he is setting himself up for more divisions after the debate on Sunday, the First Minister said: ā€œI genuinely hope not.

ā€œPeople can accuse me of a lot of things, but I canā€™t be accused of not letting the party have its say on the strategy.ā€

The First Minister pointed to the independence convention in Dundee during the summer as an example of allowing members to shape policy.

Ahead of his first conference since taking over the job from Nicola Sturgeon, the First Minister said he is both ā€œexcitedā€ and ā€œnervousā€.

He added that conference is like a ā€œvery big family gatheringā€, although put to him that it could be considered a dysfunctional one given the ructions within the party, he said: ā€œEvery family has its awkward members.ā€

The conference comes as the Scottish Government also finds itself in a precarious financial position, with Deputy First Minister Shona Robison reporting earlier this year that the country faces a Ā£1 billion black hole in its budget next year.

But even with the issues facing the countryā€™s finances, Mr Yousaf said there will be some policy announcements in his keynote address to the conference on Tuesday, assuring members it will not be ā€œjust rhetoricā€, and will include some ā€œsolid policy detail and visionā€.

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