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'No equal pay for women until men have babies', says former BBC Today presenter Sue MacGregor

‘They will never have equal pay because there will be times when [women] have to leave’

Samuel Osborne
Monday 31 July 2017 13:34 BST
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Sue Macgregor says there won't be equal pay until 'men start having babies'

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A renowned former BBC presenter has said there will never be equal pay for men and women “until men have babies”.

Sue MacGregor, who hosted Radio 4’s Today programme from 1984 until 2002, said “women always end up doing most of the work” with children, which rightly take up most of their attention.

The gender pay gap at the BBC has been thrown into focus after it published details of staff earning more than £150,000.

Two-thirds of its top-earning staff were revealed to be male.

Ms MacGregor, in an interview on the Today programme about how the show had changed, said: “My view is that there will never be totally equal pay for women until men have babies.

“They will never have equal pay because there will be times when they have to leave.

“There are extraordinary people who come back to work after two weeks or four weeks, but mostly and rightly, their attention is taken by this new little thing in their lives.”

The Today programme has been cited as representative of the wider issue in the BBC.

The corporation’s figures showed male presenters John Humphrys and Nick Robinson are paid more than £600,000 and £250,000 respectively, with its top-earning female presenter Mishal Husain paid more than £200,000.

The BBC's biggest salaries revealed

Sarah Montague was the only Today presenter not to appear on the list of highly paid staff.

This prompted an awkward exchange in the studio with Ms MacGregor, who was on the programme alongside hosts Mr Humphrys and Ms Montague.

Ms MacGregor said: “Really, Sarah should be asking this question, not me.”

Ms Montague replied, laughing: “I don’t think I should.”

Additional reporting by PA

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