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Your support makes all the difference. Close Read more Andy Cohen has explained why he was so shocked at Bethenny Frankel ’s new Real Housewives rewatch podcast, ReWives .
Frankel previously starred in The Real Housewives of New York City, but left the show for the second time back in 2019.
Cohen is the executive producer of the show and previously said he was “shocked” that Frankel had started ReWives in an interview with PageSix .
Following the news, Cohen discussed his reaction while presenting his Sirius XM talk show Radio Andy , with co-host John Hill on Wednesday (16 November).
Asked why he was surprised he said: “I was surprised at that because she’s been trashing the show for the last three years.”
“She’s been talking about that [saying] it’s toxic, and it’s this and every bad thing you can think she has been quoted saying about the show … and now she’s doing a Housewives recap podcast.”
“I see her quotes, especially when they are negative about the show. So that’s why I was surprised,” he added.
“Aren’t you surprised?” he questioned Hill before his co-host agreed he could see why Cohen had reacted that way.
The forthcoming ReWives podcast is described as “a must listen water cooler podcast” in which Frankel “is joined by unexpected thought leaders and celebrity friends to have insightful conversations, using the most notorious Housewives episodes as vehicles for hilarious and outrageous commentary on real topics.”
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“Right, and if she s***s on the show, that means she’s gonna s*** on us on her little podcast about the Housewives,” she predicted.
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