Daily catch-up: Corbyn is 'not sure' if he is a pacifist but knows he is never wrong

And George Osborne is certainly not the One Nation social-justice progressive he pretended to be

John Rentoul
Monday 30 November 2015 09:33 GMT
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My best estimate of how MPs would vote if there is a vote on Wednesday on extending air strikes against Isis into Syria. I am assuming that Labour MPs would be allowed a free vote, because I do not see how Jeremy Corbyn could impose a whip against action. Thanks to Henrik Pettersson for his superb graphic for The Independent on Sunday.

The Labour leader was calm and persuasive in making his case on the Andrew Marr show yesterday. But Marr pressed him: "It does sound to me like you’re against bombing under all circumstances. Are you a pacifist, would you describe yourself as a pacifist?"

Corbyn replied: "No, I wouldn’t describe myself as a pacifist, but I would describe an act of violence, an act of war, as absolutely a very last resort."

That is not the answer he gave to the same question in an interview with the Christian magazine Third Way during the Labour leadership election (on or before 10 July).

Q. Are you actually a pacifist?

I would always try to bring about a peaceful solution to any conflict, and so I opposed the Gulf War in 1991 and, obviously, [the invasions of] Afghanistan and Iraq. To say I was a pacifist would be very absolutist.

Q. If you had been of your parents' generation, would you have applauded the International Brigade in the Spanish Civil War?

My dad wanted to join the International Brigade, but his health wouldn't allow it. Would I have supported it? You can't translate yourself into a different period; but had the rest of the world properly recognised and supported the Republican government in Spain, would the Second World War have happened? We'll never know. I do have respect for those people that were conscientious objectors in the war. Does that make me a pacifist? I can't really answer that. I'm not sure.

What I find even more surprising about that answer is that he respects conscientious objectors to the Second World War, without saying that he recognises that it was a just war.

Later on in the interview he was asked:

Q. Looking back, are there major positions you've taken that you think have proved wrong?

Proved wrong? I don't think so.

He then launches into an anecdote about the time there were "just the three of us", "Tony Benn, Nelson Mandela and me sitting round a table having a chat", after the other MPs at the event had gone away "because they'd got other things to do".

On the day, I thought George Osborne's Autumn Statement might make it hard for egalitarian social democrats to oppose the Conservative Government. If he is not going to cut tax credits for the working poor, there is not much in this One Nation Government with which we disagree. It was obvious, however, that the Autumn Statement still took more from the poor than the rich, because the Chancellor did not claim otherwise. But we had to wait until the Institute for Fiscal Studies published its analysis the next day to find out how much. It turned out, as I wrote here on Friday, that the plan is still to take just as much from the working poor after four years, while protecting existing claimants. My article for The Independent on Sunday is devoted to the subject.

And finally, thanks as ever to Moose Allain, for this:‏

"My shirt's tucked into my trousers. I should feed it more often."

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